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Discussion in 'Ecommerce' started by Joe F, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. #21 Paul G, Sep 7, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2016
    >>@Paul G Do you use a PO Box for your store? I don't want to put a fake address as I want the store to be legit, but obviously I don't want my home address plastered on the web either.

    Just a quickie as I need to go out soon.... no, I've got my home address on this one and a few other sites and I get a different local telephone number for each one from https://www.net-telco.net so I can get every site a business listing in Google, Yell etc.

    When I had the casino/poker sites I used a local business centre as my address and they charged something like £60 a year plus costs for forwarding mail, but no-one ever sent any mail so that was fine.

    I'd strongly recommend not using a PO Box, or anything like Mailboxes ETC, because you'll probably struggle to get listed. You could probably get a cheap accommodation address in the centre of Glasgow or something, maybe even cheaper than a PO Box.
     
  2. Looks like a good service Colin. It looks like it works with lots of different services too.
     
  3. That's something I hadn't even considered.

    I was just thinking short term as far as putting an address on the store. I wouldn't want to spend money on anything before the store was making money as it could be money down the drain.

    I do think you are right. In the short term, I think a PO Box could work initially just so that there is an address listed on the page. Once I have generated some sales I can then think about getting a proper address so that I can list the shop in directories such as Yell.
     
  4. Thanks Paul. I was completely unaware that business addresses even existed. That sounds like a much better solution. In the short term I think a PO Box scanning solution will work from the point of view of adding an address to make the store official etc. I can then select a business address when I decide to add the store to directories etc at a later date.
     
  5. I haven't used Prosociate Joe, but it's the Woozone plugin from CodeCanyon I'm using here...

    http://mobilitysupplier.com

    ...and I honestly couldn't recommend it. They released a new version and it's full of bugs, plus the support is atrocious. That's why I'm looking at Datafeedr, because their support is excellent and they've been operating for about 10 years, so they know what they're doing.

    You can feed the products into Woocommerce with it too - they've got a plugin for it - and they've also got a free comparison engine plugin that shows people the best prices across suppliers...

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/datafeedr-comparison-sets/screenshots/

    They've got a live demo site here that has the comparison engine working on it too...

    https://www.geargrabber.net
    I've spent a long time looking around for solutions and I'm pretty much sold on this now.

    I am going to sign up for Oblero and have a play around with it too though. Not to replace that current site, but I might start another one...
     
  6. What's a PO Box scanning solution Kevin? Different from the services on that link?
     
  7. No I was referring to the service I mentioned. Basically they will receive your mail and then scan it for you and you can check it online.

    I wouldn't be getting anything delivered to the PO Box. The only mail going to the PO Box would be related to the store. More than likely, it would be junk mail. So in that respect, a scanning service that provides a PO Box would be perfect.
     
  8. Doh. Sorry, that was at the point where I was running out the door yesterday and I just scanned the whole thread and then answered your particular question, without reading the whole thing. Sorry.

    Well, if you're not bothered about being listed anywhere, that actually looks quite good, eh? And the price is right too :)
     
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  9. Some good info being shared here. I'm really tempted to give it a go!

    There are some Shopify discount codes about that might still work:
    http://www.johnnyfd.com/p/resources.html

    I think co-working spaces often offer a business address only option - might be worth checking out.

    Let us know when you have a site going and how easy it was to setup.
     
  10. Will do. I will be sure to let you all know. I've taken a day or two off to hang with my girlfriend and will start working again on Sunday. I will try and work through this. Before I set up the store, I will need to decide on the right products and start building the store and sorting the theme. I think that's the best order to get things done.
    1. Find suitable products for the store on AliExpress. Perhaps best to start off small and sell a small number of items.
    2. Choose a suitable theme for the store
    3. Add essential pages such as about us, contact us, terms and conditions, deliveries etc
    4. Find a suitable domain name
    5. Launch the store
    6. Promote the store
     
  11. Sounds good! How do you plan to get traffic to the store? I assume Google Shopping and PLA are too expensive for this kind of drop shipping?
     
  12. I didn't get a chance to do this at the weekend as I spent all day yesterday looking at cars. I've got some things I want to add to my website today and then I'll hopefully have some time to play around with this tonight.

    If I choose a martial arts topic, I should be able to link to it from related websites I own. I suspect I will need at least four or five hours to get everything set up. I'll probably just add a simple logo until the store picks up some traction.
     
  13. Maybe have a look on Fiverr for a logo?
     
  14. Yeah Fiverr could be one option. Another could be to create a simple logo myself from scratch or by using a stock template from the Envato marketplace.

    The problem I've had so far is that I'm catching up with so much other work that I've not had a chance to do this. I need to make it a priority and get it done.

    I've got a blog post to complete today and can then start working on it.
     
  15. #36 Kevin Muldoon, Sep 15, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2016
    I'm going to work on this for four or five hours today.

    I'm just looking at domain names and suitable items just now.

    I might try something different than a martial arts store. It means starting from start and having no traffic base, however Shopify has built in blogging functionality so I could work on some articles to try and generate some traffic.

    The more I look at Shopify the more I appreciate why people use it. Seems like a really great service.

    One thing I just noticed. The store is password protected until you opt for one of their plans.

    That means that you can spend the time available during the trial to get your store exactly how you want it, but when you want the store to go live you need to start paying.

    I have no problem with this. If I do this half heartedly it won't be successful.

    So I am happy to work on this for a few months and see how it goes.

    The one thing I'm unsure right now is whether to localise the store to the UK or just make it global.

    Making it global does open up a lot of opportunities but I reckon it would be easier to manage the store if it was targeted to one area; particularly as the delivery time for many UK items is smaller.

    I guess the smart thing to do would be to register both domains if I do choose to target the UK market.
     
  16. Or set up sub-domains.... uk.yourdomain.com

    So, what's the monthly cost going to be to run Oberlo and Shopify together? About £40 a month if you're on the basic package with Oberlo? (Which you'd probably need to be on to make it worthwhile with the # of orders you're allowed.) And then the % per transaction for Shopify too.

    If you bump up the AliExpress prices by 10% you're going to need quite a lot of orders every month to cover those costs alone. Unless you go for high-ticket items, but if the items are in the £10-£30 range you'll need a decent amount of orders just to cover maintenance costs.

    Or are you thinking you can add much more than that on?

    I'm not sure myself. Just asking.
     
  17. I might just target the UK market as it is hard to defend an item taking 50 days to arrive. Most of the UK items arrive within 5 to 15 days.

    The cheapest Shopify plan for the UK is £22 per month(plus transactional fees for accepting payments with each order). Cheapest Oberlo plan is only $4.90 which is about £3.70 at today's rates. So it should be just less than £26 per month.

    I am hoping to add more than 10% to orders. I am considering adding 50%.

    The key is to choose the right items.

    The break even point will obviously depend on the products you choose and the markup you set, however the beauty of this kind of setup is that it is pretty much all automated. Once the store has been set up your focus will be on marketing, adding new products, and responding to customer emails etc. You wouldn't need to sell many items every month to justify your time.

    Feel free to ask me anything. I am far from an expert on this and just finding my feet along the way. I'm happy to share what I discover.
     
  18. You know, I haven't had time to look at it properly yet Kevin, but I will. I spent an hour or so looking at AliExpress and comparing prices for similar (probably the same, white label) products on Amazon and Ebay and couldn't see much difference, but I think I said before it was only tech products. And I don't think that's a good market to try to "break into" at all, so probably wasted time there.

    I still quite like the Amazon/Affiliate Window etc. type affiliate programs and have been looking at what pays best on Amazon this week. It's still only 10% commission, but there are reasonably high-ticket items (well, in the £100-£300 range) and no costs to run it. That appeals to me from a "build, promote, replicate" type angle, because it wouldn't be too difficult to do everything properly, with a business address for every site, listed in all the right places, and replicate it twice a month. I think any more than that is stretching it, because I need a week to do a proper site and just setting up the directory listings and social media takes a few days too, if you want everything working right. Ongoing maintenance can be somewhat automated, depending on how deep into that you want to go (and I like deep :)) but every site is still a bit of a mission.

    10 sites earning £200 a month each isn't a bad target though and I don't actually think it will be all that difficult either.

    And you never know, there could be a few real good ones in the mix. It's looking like I'll probably do over 200 sales on that mobility site this month (I got 18 sales , totalling about £300, in one day this week) and I've hardly spent a penny on it, no advertising or anything, just time.

    Action taking = happening soon. This week has just ran away with me!
     
  19. That sounds good Paul.

    I guess the advantage of having a store vs an affiliate site is that you can list the products from the store on paid search like Google Shopping - which you can't do with an affiliate site.

    Getting enough traffic to an affiliate site to make 200 per month will probably be a lot of work unless you pick a really good niche with low competition, high traffic, and good margins.

    Let us know how you get on though!
     
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